Don. And Mike were really cool good group of guys to go hang out with and do some flying was a good experience for my wife and daughter I went up as well very nice scenery even if youre afraid of heights cant go wrong for $50 go up to 3000 foot and soar like an eagle this is a flying club that you can join which also will include your family members highly recommend at least doing it once get the kids off the computer get them away from their games and take him up the prize him and let them soar like an eagle